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The Random .giz Topic
« on: September 07, 2007, 04:12:40 am »
So yeah, I'm tired of making a new topic every time I'm bored and want to share some random thing I found in a Genesis game, so why not make a compilation that everyone can add to! This is generally for random crap that doesn't deserve to be turned into a video and added to the site as well, or my case where the site just hates me and won't accept file transfers at all.

A rundown on how I set up my post:

FILE - the attatchment you need to download if you want to see the trick/run
GAME - what game you need to play the giz in gens+
ZONE - where the giz takes place
INFO - what the giz is about

To start, here's a few you may have seen... and a few you may not have seen! (hint: they're attatchments)

FILE: sb2.giz
GAME: Sonic 1
ZONE: Scrap Brain Act  2
INFO: Ring Attack Trick

This is the full RA .giz I made before ybbun told me about another trick to get to where the record is now. I promised not to tell that trick though, so this .giz is of a run without that trick. :(

FILE: l1ringsJ.giz
GAME: Sonic 1 (Japanese version)
ZONE: Labyrinth Act 1
INFO: Full Ring Attack

This is a full 107 ring attack of Labyrinth 1, also showing where the extra ring is. I found this on Sonic Mega Collection because that's where I was ring-attacking Sonic 1.

FILE: ht1-kRA.giz
GAME: Sonic 2 & Knuckles
ZONE: Hill Top 1
INFO: Full Ring Attack + Score Attack demonstration

In the first minute is where I show the trick that enables someone to get a score of 90,000+ if repeated a million times, and the rest of it is a ring attack to get the perfect bonus.

FILE: cp2kscore.giz
GAME: Sonic 2 & Knuckles
ZONE: Chemical Plant 2
INFO: Score/Ring Attack

This shows where all 297 rings are located, and how to achieve the 2nd place score. No clue what stanski did to get under 3 minutes total :(

FILE: lr2-kRA.giz
GAME: Sonic 3 & Knuckles
ZONE: Lava Reef Act 2 w/ Knuckles
INFO: Full Ring Attack

A full ring attack of the zone with Knuckles. Props to mike for tipping me off to the beginning part, and I added a little something to the end to make 286 rings. Also note the weird part where Knuckles seems to be running down a wall after I spindash-jump for the ring I missed.

FILE: lr2-klol.giz
GAME: Sonic 3 & Knuckles
ZONE: Lava Reef Act 2 w/ Knuckles
INFO: Random lol

This is what happens if you keep running down the wall in the last .giz. You get into the wall, but it doesn't really seem to help at all :(

FILE: ss-sRA.giz
GAME: Sonic 3 & Knuckles
ZONE: Sky Sanctuary w/ Sonic
INFO: Ring Attack Route

This zone is kind of confusing to RA, but this is the route I used. Shows where the randomly placed 10 box is that Thorn discovered. Run was good up till the boss in which I got hit :( But this at least shows the route!

Feel free to post your own random .giz's!

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 08:11:52 am »
I approve of this thread!

That trick in LR2 was rather clever...but you missed two really obvious rings. :S

And how d'you make Sonic go up the tube twice in SB2?

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 10:45:40 am »
Crowbar the reason he didn't get those rings is that if he goes over 50 before that glide and climb he is screwed. (Incidentally, for cases like this, I'm wondering whether allowing Super forms might actually bring about an increase in the total possible. Something to consider.)

If I organised my FTP folder better it would make a bit more sense but if you search through www.soniccenter.org/mike89 there's a bunch of giz's that I've put up over the past year or so. Most of them are self explanatory, in the form IC2T-R = Ice Cap 2 Tails Rings.

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2007, 03:49:21 am »
After screwing around in debug mode for awhile on Mushroom Hill 1 trying to find a way to break into Knuckles's path for ring/score attacking, I finally did! Check it out. Of course I still don't know how to get those last three rings in his path out in a manner that you can still get back out of the hole with Sonic, but this is a start... (water shield bounce on the badnik)

Edit: The full Tails Mushroom Hill 1 Ring/Score attack
« Last Edit: September 10, 2007, 08:42:23 am by SkyLights »

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2007, 10:54:10 am »
itt i win at life

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2007, 10:58:24 am »
showoff :P

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2007, 06:50:57 pm »
THAT. IS. EPIC. Now perfect all of them like that. >:D
<Tails> also "GET BLUE SPHERES" on a black-and-white TV remains the best special stage of all time

<Achlys> wat ave you done!
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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2007, 06:51:34 pm »
I do not find that epic. :O
The moon is so red. Looks like it's going to be a fun night.

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2007, 06:55:31 pm »
Spinny Im considering it.

But some of them will be -whores-
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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2007, 01:51:38 am »
Sonic Turbo.

I exploit glitch area for massive rings (well not really).
<Sondow> also what
<Sondow> since when was S&K an expansion pack to s3
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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2007, 10:58:03 pm »
FILE: sb2.giz
GAME: Sonic 1
ZONE: Scrap Brain Act  2
INFO: Ring Attack Trick

This is the full RA .giz I made before ybbun told me about another trick to get to where the record is now. I promised not to tell that trick though, so this .giz is of a run without that trick. :(
Meh, it doesn't matter, you may as well make a video, everyone knows about the 247 now heh. I think the original technique (not using the fall-through-the-scenery glitch, and trying to get 172 instead of 169) was much more obscure and interesting than trying to get 247 with the glitch.

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2007, 11:01:02 pm »
FILE: sb2.giz
GAME: Sonic 1
ZONE: Scrap Brain Act?  2
INFO: Ring Attack Trick

This is the full RA .giz I made before ybbun told me about another trick to get to where the record is now. I promised not to tell that trick though, so this .giz is of a run without that trick. :(
Meh, it doesn't matter, you may as well make a video, everyone knows about the 247 now heh. I think the original technique (not using the fall-through-the-scenery glitch, and trying to get 172 instead of 169) was much more obscure and interesting than trying to get 247 with the glitch.
And if neither of you do, I will.  It was still interesting to find out, though.
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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2007, 03:39:24 am »
I'm putting most of my RAs into www.soniccenter.org/mike89/games now.

Currently in here:
Angel Island 1 (S/K)
Hydrocity 1 (S/T)
Marble Garden 1 K
Marble Garden 2 (S/T/K, plus S time)
Carnival Night 2 (S/K)
Ice Cap 1 T (S3 alone)
Ice Cap 2 K
Launch Base 1 (S/K)
Mushroom Hill 2 (S/K)
Flying Battery 2 (S/T)
Sandopolis 2 S
Death Egg 1 T (marked -S for score)
« Last Edit: November 20, 2007, 04:49:39 am by yse »

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2007, 03:53:51 am »
One of the challenges in mike's tournament involved defeating Robotnik in Launch Base 1.  Normally you're supposed to defeat a robot at the end of the stage instead, so the process is fairly strange, as seen in eredani's video (done in S3&K) in the following archive: http://www.soniccenter.org/tournament/R8L1.zip

I tried this challenge myself.  I also had a lightning shield handy.  This resulted in a strange sight after defeating Robotnik:

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2007, 03:59:48 am »
Here's an old one of mine.  A strange oddity found on accident, recreated some time ago

You need a Sonic 2 rom
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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 04:52:33 am »
Another one found by accident, and I just recreated it.

Sonic 2 for this one.

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2007, 10:54:58 am »
Finally got around to doing this. Scrap Brain 2 RA. ( :( ybbun)

On a side note, I went through the first part twice on a different run and when I finished the level, I ended up with 263 rings! It seems like some rings/boxes can actually reappear even after you collect them. Though, when I talked to mike about it, he said he found something like that awhile ago and it was banned, so I'm not submitting it.

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2007, 11:54:43 pm »
Falling through the floor in a good place in SO2! Basically, you need to reach maximum jump height from the flat surface (ie hold the jump button) then hold left onto the wall. Works every time for me.

EDIT: Star Light 3 261 rings!
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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2007, 04:25:04 pm »
lol death. Carnival Night 1 Sonic.
Ring Beauty! Carnival Night 2 Knuckles.
Also included, an old Icecap 1 Knuckles vid. (Requested)
Another add: MG2 K
EDIT AGAIN: HOLY BAT SHIT: Carnival Night 2, Sonic: 791 Rings!
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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2007, 06:06:30 am »
408 ring Flying Battery 1 with Sonic. Bonus: all of my badnik combos went through. :O

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2007, 10:11:18 pm »
This was so nerve wracking :( Sandopolis 1 Sonic Ring attack. My time at the end was 9:38

Edit: mike asked for the weird trick I found in Hidden Palace so here it is. Knuckles being beaten in 3 hits (though my first encounter with it, it was one hit)
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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2007, 07:14:11 am »
Way to ruin a good RA :( Fast forward to about five minutes.

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2007, 09:17:04 am »
The beginning of my Sandopolis 2 RA with Tails

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2007, 03:32:50 am »
Here's the solution to the three-ring mystery of Icecap 1. If you know what you missed by watching, you know why Tails' perfect is 760, not 757.

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2007, 09:51:10 am »
Possible time saver?!

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2007, 12:10:26 am »
Labyrinth 2 trick!  I think carretero found this one too, but I dunno.

Also, at fastest, you'll BARELY pass the rotating spikes.  I recorded this before I found that out, and that is crucial to 30.
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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2007, 07:13:51 pm »
Another failed RA :(

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2007, 08:03:39 am »
Death Egg 2 ring attack with Tails.

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Re: The Random .giz Topic
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2007, 01:04:48 pm »
This will blow your mind, and possibly rewrite the methodology for TA-ing, RA-ing, and SA-ing LB2-K.

Sonic's Boss can be destroyed as Knuckles! :O
Time freezes after the destruction of the first boss, and does not restartfor the rest of the level! :OO

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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2007, 10:05:36 pm »
This will blow your mind, and possibly rewrite the methodology for TA-ing, RA-ing, and SA-ing LB2-K.

Sonic's Boss can be destroyed as Knuckles! :O
Time freezes after the destruction of the first boss, and does not restartfor the rest of the level! :OO
Isn't that old news?  I distinctly remember hearing that before.
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